Two Big Questions...

[sozinho]

I think the avatar cycle is destined to not go forward, after all the network will never allow spin offs or series so Nick will probably force the creators hands and force them to end the series with Aangs death and no chance of expanded universes or spinoffs.

The series isn't ending at the third book because of Nick putting the kibosh on it: the creators planned on a three season storyline from the very beginning. Also, they've said they're working on a new project within the avatar universe (aside from the movies) which suggests a spin-off is in the works; I doubt they'd be working on that if didn't have at least tentative approval from Nick.

[firelordsunny]

Thats wishful thinking, I think the creators are going to be forced to end this at 3 seasons, sure at one time they might have done one more season to even things out but nick wont let them.
Dont you know the kind of filth we are dealing with?
This is a war between us and Nick and they have already won, there will not be spin offs and even if they are you know they will never be as good as the current universe.
The movies are nothing to brag about either, dont you know they are re hashes of the series?
Learn the truth people, save yourselves the embarrassment

[sozinho]

Thats wishful thinking, I think the creators are going to be forced to end this at 3 seasons, sure at one time they might have done one more season to even things out but nick wont let them.
Dont you know the kind of filth we are dealing with?
This is a war between us and Nick and they have already won, there will not be spin offs and even if they are you know they will never be as good as the current universe.
The movies are nothing to brag about either, dont you know they are re hashes of the series?
Learn the truth people, save yourselves the embarrassment

Yes, I know the movies are intended to follow the same three-part cycles as the series always has been, and I'm not bragging about them. All I know is this: the creators have said they are working on a project, (presumably for TV, though these days the straight-to-DVD [or will it be all Blu-Ray by then?] market is a major possibility) and said project, they have indicated, takes place within the world of Avatar, though it seems it won't feature characters from the current series. While Nick's behavior in promoting the show of late has been distressing, until I've heard official word that development on said project is being abandoned, I have no reason to think that is not the case. As to whether or not it will be any good, I'll reserve judgment until I've at least seen something specific.

Moreover, with regards to the string-pullers at Nick, they probably feel they're simply doing whatever's necessary to maximize profit; while that may seem callous to us, doing otherwise would constitute the defrauding of their investors, and actually illegal. And even if that wasn't the case, if they weren't focused on the bottom line, they'd be fired and replaced with people who were. So while comparing the Viacom (Nick's parent company) to Satan's toe-jam may be emotionally satisfying, it's also not very practical.

[firelordsunny]

me I know better to trust those SOB's, never trust big companies they always screw things up/

[Artefacto]

Thats wishful thinking, I think the creators are going to be forced to end this at 3 seasons, sure at one time they might have done one more season to even things out but nick wont let them.

nah, what he's saying is true. it was the creators intention to plan the series to end by 3 seasons. they said it themselves. besides, it was because of Nick that they got the chance to do their show. big company gives money to these guys to do a show that's completely different from what they are used to produce - because they had faith in them. I know Nick is not the best... but hey, it's not the worst either. besides, if it was up to the network's interest, they would sleeper (editted) Avatar to no end with multiple filler seasons and random episodes just to milk and milk money out of it. although they have milked the franchise with multiple merchandise and stuff, it's still pretty decent and respectable milking. blessed the producers that they want to keep the purity of their idea of 3 good seasons instead of a bazzillion sleeper (editted) out filler seasons.



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anyway, what were those two big questions? ah, the avatar cycle and that...


tell you the truth, I have no idea.

but I believe the writers have thought about it as much as some of the most dedicated fans have. it's a serious thought, and I hope that by the end of the show it is addressed properly. perhaps those projects post avatar involve the answering of those questions. maybe, who knows.

[firelordsunny]

Feh, when i am proven right dont come drying to me....

[Artefacto]

I think I am strong enough to hold my senses, and not letting the course of a cartoon make me cry and go to you begging forgiveness.

[elartee]

maybe aang gets children that can airbend.

[Pleh]

Something everyone here seems to assume is that airbending is genetic.
I don't think it is.
I believe Airbending has more to do with spirituality than what's in your blood.

I still think that Teo is gonna be the next airbender.
When Aang trusted him enough to show him the area that belonged to airbenders only, it screams to me as foreshadowing Teo to become an Airbender.
Remember that Aang said, "He certainly has the heart of an Airbender."
Since Airbending comes from the heart and not the body (at least I think so) Teo having the heart means he might actually be able to airbend already.
I think he needs training to get into the right mindset (pretty much, he needs to become a monk) but other than that, I see him as the Airbenders' hope for the future.

Since I believe Teo will be the next Airbender, that answers both questions, really.
I think the Airbenders will return. When they do, the Avatar cycle will continue as usual.
As for Aang getting cut off, remember that Aang is the Avatar.
He is the person. He is the soul. Being cut off from his past lives changes nothing about who he is and I don't see how it would stop him from being reincarnated.

[cocobee]

But Teo is really just a normal non-bender kid. I believe u have to
be born as a bender. U cant become one, unless Teo is really an
airbender and havent found out yet.
And I dont believe that the cycle will end somehow, because
after Aang there will be a waterbender who's gunna be the Avatar
and after water, comes earth then fire and then air again. And
by that time Aang has probably many descendants who probably
have some kind of airbending in their genes. So there's a big
chance there will be airbenders in the future.
Plus there is also many people who doesn't know they're
airbenders so..

[hajtom]

Chances are that the cycle will die when it cycles again to fire. After that no more Avatar.

And oh Teo is not of the Airnomads it does not remain consistent as we were lead to believe that it is more likely genetic.

[Pleh]

Where are you getting your info, Haj?
You make no logical argument here and you offer no evidence to support your claim.
How do you come to your conclusion?

Remember that all of the Air Nomads were Airbenders.
Check out this thread if you don't believe me.

http://avaportal.proboards86.com/index.c....lay&thread=3188

Does this mean the Air Nomads have better genetic code than the other nations?
I don't think so. I think it has far more to do with spirituality.
Besides, at some point, someone who had never heard of bending learned to do it after watching a bison do it.
There was no reason for that person to believe that they would have that capability... unless they had the right spiritual state of mind.

Yes, if it's genetic, then the Airbenders will likely never come back.
I don't think it is.

This interview also addresses what you said, CoCoBee.
The creators always wanted the source of bending to be ambiguous and a mystery even to those who know it best.
How would Teo ever know he was an Airbender? He's never seen one before.
Before he saw Aang, he had no idea what Airbending even looked like.
The important thing is that he has the spirit of an Airbender and I think that may enable him to learn to Airbend.
Granted it may be difficult for him considering he's not a monk and hasn't been taught from birth like most Airbenders.
But I still think it's totally possible for him.

[kataang]

Hmm..well
they are going to have to end the series with a big bang it seems.
Im still not sure about Aang dying though.
But like many have said,
I think there is someone out there who has bending genes but they just dont' know it, and soon enough they will find out and ..well.. we'll see from there ^_^

[sevensace]

I don't think Aang is going to die. Just an FYI.

[sozinho]

Where are you getting your info, Haj?
You make no logical argument here and you offer no evidence to support your claim.
How do you come to your conclusion?

Remember that all of the Air Nomads were Airbenders.
Check out this thread if you don't believe me.

http://avaportal.proboards86.com/index.c....lay&thread=3188

Does this mean the Air Nomads have better genetic code than the other nations?
I don't think so. I think it has far more to do with spirituality.
Besides, at some point, someone who had never heard of bending learned to do it after watching a bison do it.
There was no reason for that person to believe that they would have that capability... unless they had the right spiritual state of mind.

Yes, if it's genetic, then the Airbenders will likely never come back.
I don't think it is.

I don't think bending is genetic either, but if it was, there would still be good cause for all Air Nomads to be benders: any nomad not able to cushion or avoid a thousand or more foot drop from a cliffside temple or sky bison using airbending would have a negligible genetic legacy. If you're looking for Air Nomads who can't bend, check the thin layer of them coating the bottom of the Patola Mountain Range.

[Pleh]

If you look at the equivalent monks and nomads in our world, nomads generally roam large and usually lower areas like plains.
When you live on a mountain, you try not to move around a lot. You become hermetic.
Many oriental monasteries (especially ones focused on achieving enlightenment) are hidden in mountains in hopes of preventing interaction with normal society.

It's interesting that the Air Nomad's two key fundamental concepts are so radically different.
The nomads are isolated by always moving, and the monks are isolated by never moving.

I would tend to think that the most likely path of evolution for the Airbenders was more along the lines that they began as true nomads, perhaps outcasts or somehow survivors of some great tragedy which destroyed their homes.
During their long and lonely travels, they discover the nature of air and choose to dedicate themselves to its ways.
After time, their distance from the other nations (EK being the most likely source of the original ancestry, I think) caused them to become a different people with a unique culture, just as it happened with America.
As their numbers grew, they eventually needed to organize themselves somehow.
Another problem was that their knowledge of Airbending was becoming vast enough to require more than just master-and-apprentice teaching that likely took place at the time.
The monastic life was eventually seen as the path to enlightenment as well as the answer to their rising population.
Becoming monks and leaving true nomadic life behind them, they established (probably just one to start with) the first Air Temple.
Surely many Nomads continued to live in the nomadic way, but the Airbenders followed the higher spirituality of the Monks.

There are many reasons the Nomads could have used to pick mountain ranges as the ideal location of their Temples.
First, they are unoccupied. Second, the airbender's ability to fly gives him/her an obvious advantage on a mountain.
Third, the same reason our monks choose mountains: enlightenment through isolation.
Fourth, mountains are very important for our planet's air systems (I'm assuming their planet is the same). Mountains force a warm and humid air from the ocean to move to a higher elevation.
This means lower pressure and lower temperature, forcing the water out of the air in the form of precipitation.
The same air flows back down the mountain on the other side dry and cold.
Whenever these drier, colder fronts run into a warmer, wetter front, the difference causes imbalance which results in a storm.
Fifth, in Avatar, there just happen to be four mountains in each of the four directions of a compass (North, South, East, West).
These probably correspond to the oriental mythology about the "four winds" (I honestly haven't looked into the full significance of this fact, I just know it applies).
If the Nomads spent their nomadic days following the wind to see where it comes from, they would likely wind up on the top of a mountain. (Or else out at sea, but a mountain seems more likely.)

I do not think the Airbenders were born out of natural selection on a mountaintop.
I think their spirituality lead them to the mountaintop.

(In case anyone is confused, all I have presented here is merely conjecture on my own part.
It is not, to my knowledge, canon. It is simply a logical deduction from known facts.)

[sokkaguy101]

Theres a big topic on this already hear;

http://avaportal.proboards86.com/index.c....ead=2603&page=4

Has all of my views on it there, check it out :)